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I've been compiling a list of "gay quotes" from The Professionals episodes. Some of these are just casual gay referencing - to the "Gay News", to the lesbian lovers in "Everest was also Conquered". Some others appear to be just the lads camping it up. And then there are the others, the ones I really love, where there's a hint of "something else going on" between them.

A lot of it is in the expressions and the body language, but it's interesting to see how many clues remain without the visuals!

Credit: Quotes from the transcripts at The Hatstand Episode Guides


General gay referencing
No Stone
BODIE: They fed 'em on tarantula legs for three weeks. Right? That failed. So then they tried a diet of twenty-four-hour, non-stop, pop music.
DOYLE: To a cageful of rats?
BODIE: Yeah. There was rock, disco, punk. You know, the whole hit parade.
DOYLE: Then what happened?
BODIE: They all went gay.
Doyle laughs.
DOYLE: A cageful of gay rats?
BODIE: It's straight, honest. You don't believe me, do you?
DOYLE: No, are you kidding.
BODIE: That's a fact. Honest. Queer as a three-pound note.

First Night
COWLEY: We've got tape records placed in every newspaper office. The periodicals, radio, TV--everywhere.
DOYLE: Gay News?
COWLEY: Everywhere.

Hunter/Hunted
MARTY: Beautiful, isn't it? Amazing to think the Vikings used to sail up here a few hundred years ago. Raid our cities--
DOYLE: Rob all the women; rape all the men.
MARTY: If you like that sort of thing.
(This is one which I think loses something when you can't view the scene)

In the Public Interest
note 1: This episode deals with gay issues against a backdrop of an overly-controlling police service so there are references throughout. Apart from this, the nuances for the B/D fan are slight - a little bit of camping (below), and this:
Office on Canal Street. Bodie and Doyle are unloading cardboard boxes from the car and carrying them inside. Doyle notices a police car pulling up to an intersection and pausing to watch them.
DOYLE: Think we've got a nibble.
He and Bodie go inside and stack the boxes. Bodie looks at brochures piled around.
BODIE: Cooking on a budget. Post-natal depression.
DOYLE: [chuckles] That's right. Not a word, not a poster, nothing about gay youth.
BODIE: Oh, that's a relief, my image remains untarnished.
He hands Doyle a brochure.
BODIE: Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
DOYLE: Oh, yeh.
He does a double take and looks at Bodie, then back at the brochure.

note 2: I find this scene strange - there are perfectly valid reasons to portray a gay youth centre as having health and welfare pamphlets. But no 'gay youth' specific material? Why? Was it a legal issue at the time, or concern about how a more realistic scene might be perceived?? Curious.

Killer With a Long Arm
HILDA: Well, you must have made some mistakes?
GEORGI: Yes, one.
HILDA: Was she prettier than me? More desirable?
GEORGI: She was a boy. [smiles] It had been a long, hot summer.

DOYLE: What do you know about Greeks, Bodie?
BODIE: Uh, the fellows all dance together and the cops shave their heads.
He laughs.
DOYLE: They are a tight-knit community.
BODIE: Yeah, ghetto time.
DOYLE: Don't knock it. Ghetto means, um, being able to depend on your own kind.
BODIE: So, you and me are a mobile ghetto, eh?
DOYLE: I've got some good Greek friends.
BODIE: Me, too. Funny thing is, though, they're all girls.
Doyle smiles.
BODIE: Where we going?
DOYLE: To see a Greek...who is not so friendly.

Fugitive
I had one small part of this scene selected, and then when I went through there was so much more to find...thank you, [livejournal.com profile] shootingtokill! Also, I noticed a couple of errors in the hatstand transcript - I've italicised the corrections
Scene 16: Hairdressing salon. Bodie and Doyle go to the door.
BODIE: Fancy a quick blow dry, do you?
DOYLE: Oh, very droll.
They go in.
RECEPTIONIST: Good afternoon.
BODIE: Afternoon.
RECEPTIONIST: Bobby's free.
She indicates Bobby, who smiles at Bodie.
DOYLE: Hell, I'm sure he is.
BODIE: Like to speak to Mr. Slater, please.
RECEPTIONIST: Oh, I don't know if you can--.
DOYLE: Ah, I think he will for us. [shows CI5 ID]
BODIE: Thank you.
The receptionist goes to the phone. It rings in Slater's office, and he answers it.
SLATER: Yeh. Right.
Hanging up, he hides a file. Bodie and Doyle come in.
SLATER: Yes, yes, I know, I remember him.
DOYLE: Fondly, no doubt.
SLATER: What do you want?
BODIE: Putting your cards on the table a bit early, aren't you?
SLATER: No, I mean, what's your poison?
DOYLE: Ah, that's very nice, make it a social occasion. Yeh, I'll have a large Scotch if you've got it.
SLATER: Yeah, I've got it. And you?
BODIE: Oh, well, I think I might have a small Cuba libre.
SLATER: Oh, well, I think I'll have a pink gin.
BODIE: You navy?
SLATER: Royal marines. You army?
BODIE: Paras. So. You're into the private army game, are you?
SLATER: Listen, I thought we were going to be sociable.
DOYLE: For us, this is sociable.
SLATER: Fine. So what d'you want?
BODIE: You know, I knew a guy like him. Went to the bar. Saw a pretty barmaid. Forgot your round.
DOYLE: You have to help yourself.
(snipped dialogue)
DOYLE: How do you feel about terrorists?
SLATER: Shoot the bloody lot of them.
BODIE: Queers?
SLATER: Shoot the--ha ha.

Everest was also Conquered
DOYLE: 1955. Exactly. And she paid cash. You get the same kind of feeling as I do about those two?
BODIE: What, only one bed being slept in?
DOYLE: Yeah, yeah.
BODIE: Yeah. It must have been murder for a policewoman with those kind of tendencies in the fifties.
DOYLE: Yeah, she'd be open to all kinds of bribery, blackmail, the lot. [he finds a paper] Jackpot! Twenty thousand shares purchased in Turvey Combines--when?

Not a very Civil Civil Servant
DRAKE: I wouldn't do that, pal. First, I could walk you over the park and give you a ten-out-of-ten thumping as easy as demonstrate a vacuum cleaner.
SINGLETON: That would get you in even more trouble.
DRAKE: No. Because even if I was picked up, we all know what fellows like you are after in parks. And besides, you're being selfish. You've got four kids. I know the roads they cross on their way to school and I know what they look like. And I can be a very dangerous driver. I know the supermarket your wife shops at. So, what I do is, I put a few things in her bag, I call the detective and she's down the road for shop-lifting. You think about it. Perhaps I could arrange both. You do it. And, you never know, you might get a few quid through your door one night and you can buy yourself a new suit.

Between Our Lads (ETA - maybe - who are they trying to kid?)
Hunter, Hunted
PRESTON: It's a condition of parole. You understand, until I get a steady job? Which could take a long time. Nobody loves a bent copper, do they? [starts to enter the house; Doyle moves as if to follow] You weren't thinking of coming in, were you? Without a warrant? Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. [exit into house]
BODIE: Well, you two don't exactly love each other, do you?
DOYLE: Well, like he said, nobody loves a bent copper.
BODIE: I don't mind. Well, nevermind. Let's try the other one.
ETA: dialogue correction thanks to [livejournal.com profile] crimson37. I've left the quote here because there is *something* about Bodie's smile when he says it - what do you think??

Not a very Civil Civil Servant
BODIE: Bodie. You've got a strange way of introducing yourself, haven't you?
HALLORAN: Yeah, I just wanted to make sure whose side you were on. Too many of you fellows are bent.
Bodie and Doyle look at each other.

Servant of Two Masters
DOYLE: Right, you're on your own.
He gets out of the car.
BODIE: Doyle.
Doyle bends down to look through the window.
BODIE: I'm going to miss you.
DOYLE: Very touching.
He crosses the road. Bodie whips the car in a U-turn, then leans out of the window.
BODIE: Hey, don't you speak to any strange men!
He speeds away. Doyle goes inside the building.

A Hiding to Nothing
COWLEY: [into radio-phone] Alpha. Where is she now?
BODIE: At a concert. Following every note with a friend.
COWLEY: A friend?
BODIE: A friend. Boyfriend.
COWLEY: You're sure it's a boyfriend? There's a big difference.
BODIE: I know. I think I can remember.

Dead Reckoning
BODIE: What about that guy Michael, the girl's boyfriend?
DOYLE: [to Bodie] You busy?
(Bodie pauses for a minute, then nods and smiles slightly at Doyle)

The Ojuka Situation
RECEPTIONIST: Well, I think we can accommodate you. Rooms Six, Seven, and Eight are adjoining. Seven is usually taken as a children's room, but the bed is full size. There's no bath, I'm afraid. So if you don't mind sharing?
BODIE: No, I'm sure that'll be all right. If that's okay with Mr Guppy?
They turn to look at Ojuka.
(Another one which loses something without the visuals)

Involvement
BODIE: Ah, come on, Doyle's girlfriend?
COWLEY: Would have to be checked out if he wants to marry her. No operative can marry without my permission.
BODIE: Didn't know that.
COWLEY: It's in the small print. And, anyway, it's not ever likely to affect you, is it?
BODIE: Thank you. Yeah, well, we don't know he's going to get married yet, do we?

Need to Know
BODIE: All due respect, sir, I'm sure, I'm, I'm not entirely happy about anyone having the key to my flat! I mean, what if you were to come in unexpectedly while I was in the-- Doing....
He looks at Doyle.
BODIE: Well, anything, you know.
Cowley looks between them.
COWLEY: I'd be very discreet, Bodie, I promise you. I'd wait until you were finished, oh, doing whatever you were doing.
He opens the box.
COWLEY: Ah, I think Mackay must have left this for you, Bodie. [holds up tulip] It was in Amsterdam, wasn't it, that he beat you in the Judo Championships?
BODIE: I was ill.
DOYLE: Oh, I don't know, sir, it might not be that. It might be some kind of, um, bouquet. I mean, uh, you never can tell these days, you know.
BODIE: Yeah, yeah.

(later)
COWLEY: I had you both covered. I'm a very good shot.
BODIE: Yeah, I saw that. Nevertheless, what if something had gone wrong?
COWLEY: Oh, in that case, I would have arranged a nice headstone for the two of you. Out of my own pocket, of course.

Taking the piss OR we camp beautifully
Blind Run
In the Fiesta van. Tinkerbell and Mr X are talking in Arabic and laughing in the back seat.
DOYLE: Share the joke, Tinkerbell.
TINKERBELL: It worked! They lost us.
DOYLE: It's not you two fairies I'm worried about; it's just my job.


In the Public Interest
BODIE: The regulations. Oh, can we have the same, uh, room, please? It's just that my friend here does a spot of painting, and he finds the view inspiring.
DOYLE: And the doctor says it's doing his fractured eyelash so much good.

First Night
Bodie and Doyle pause beside the billboard advertising next week's film.
DOYLE: I've seen it.
BODIE: Hey?
DOYLE: Yeah. The hero had an operation to take his hand off his hip.
He looks at Bodie's left hand resting on his hip.

Looking After Annie
BODIE: Oh, come on. Cowley and the opposite sex? You must be joking.
DOYLE: Well, he must be an attractive man. I suppose. Oh, he's a bit aggressive, but he...he would be attractive, wouldn't he?
BODIE: [campy] I've not noticed. Anyway, too busy ducking insults.

A Hiding to Nothing
DOYLE: [on R/T] 4.5 to 3.7, over.
BODIE: [into R/T] 3.7. You all right?
DOYLE: Yeah, matron's a bit friendly.
BODIE: Yeah? Problem?
DOYLE: Nah, I'll just take the rotor arm out of her broomstick. Listen, the guy who had this flat before, what's he do?
BODIE: Oh, he's a ballet dancer. But he's very nice.
DOYLE: Oh, really?

Involvement
Doyle's flat. Doyle is alone when the intercom buzzer sounds. He pushes the button to open the outside door without checking to see who it is and returns to the kitchen. Sound of someone arriving.
DOYLE: Come on in, darling, the door's open.
BODIE: Anything you say, sweetheart!
Doyle turns and laughs.

Blackout
In a pub. Stuart carries a couple of pints from the bar with Doyle trailing him to where Bodie, with his arm in a sling, is sitting.
DOYLE: This is Stuart. He wants to congratulate you.
BODIE: Oh, cheers, mate.
STUART: Yeah, you did fine. Left-handed, too.
BODIE: Yeah, ambidextrous.
DOYLE: Yeah.
BODIE: That's not what you think it means. *simpers*


There was quite a bit of cutting and pasting between categories *g* so I'm interested in comments on how I've organised the quote selections. Also additional suggestions!

ETAs
Runner
BODIE: All this drinking in the daytime, Doyle.
DOYLE: I know. I shan't be able to look a ginger beer in the face again. See you.
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Date: 2007-02-03 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmoat.livejournal.com
Hey, cool, I like this. In the "we camp beautifully" category I'd add this from "Look After Annie":

BODIE: Oh, come on. Cowley and the opposite sex? You must be joking.

DOYLE: Well, he must be an attractive man. I suppose. Oh, he's a bit aggressive, but he...he would be attractive, wouldn't he?

BODIE: [campy] I've not noticed. Anyway, too busy ducking insults.

Date: 2007-02-03 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Oooh, thank you! *added*

Date: 2007-02-03 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimson-37.livejournal.com
Hey this is really great, thanks. You've made me smile.
This might be another one for the collection. That is, if you think it fits?

From Spy Probe:-
The lads are in the van watching the warehouse. Bodie is half asleep. Ray is looking out of the window.

BODIE: Mind you, he wasn't the brightest thing on two legs, was he?
DOYLE: I thought he was sweet.
BODIE: Eh? [Bodie raises his head to look at Ray]
DOYLE: All those sweets he eats. [Doyle quickly mumbles}

Date: 2007-02-03 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
*LOL* I'm not sure about this one - on the surface it sounds a little suggestive, but if you watch the scene it seems more like a bad pun made when they're both knackered - Bodie's almost asleep!

Think I'll hold off on it for now, but thanks... and if you find anything else...

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Date: 2007-02-03 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Hmmn - I'm not quite sure whether Doyle's crack at Tinkerbell comes under taking the piss/camping it up or if he's just trying to be offensive, mind... 'course, methinks the gentlemen doth protest... in any case... *g*

Date: 2007-02-03 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Ooh - plus, possible (admittedly dubious) general referencing - Cowley to Bodie in Involvement, when Bodie expresses surprise that potential marriage partners are checked out by Cowley - "Not something you'll have to worry about, 3.7..." (*she paraphrases badly...*)

Date: 2007-02-03 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
This is why I posted to my journal first - I wanted my well-Pros-educated friends to have a go at sorting the list before I put it anywhere public! I take your point about the Tinkerbell/fairies quote too...

I think this has possibilities - would it be general referencing or in the "something going on" category... ie it isn't about both of them, but could be construed as suggesting something about Bodie, one way or the other (or both *g*). Maybe I should rename the category.

Under the "protesteth too much" banner (which I won't make a header, more a definitional guide, IYKWIM), what about the "mobile ghetto" conversation...

DOYLE: I've got some good Greek friends.
BODIE: Me, too. Funny thing is, though, they're all girls.

Said most unconvincingly :-)

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Date: 2007-02-03 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
Oh, this is fantastic! I wish it weren't f-locked so I could point a friend toward it. Would you mind if I copied and pasted it into an email?

I think it's important to note that in that "NAVCCS" scene, they don't just look at each other. They smirk. Very suggestive.

Date: 2007-02-03 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
No I've unlocked it - I initially wanted to get some friends feedback on categories & inclusions before I linked the post elsewhere - but if there's wider interest, well go for it!

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Date: 2007-02-03 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paris7am.livejournal.com
Excellent! I'm so happy to see these. If I remember or find any I'll make sure to pass them on to you.

Date: 2007-02-03 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
There's also something in "In the Public Interest," when they're in the office of the Gay Youth Alliance after unpacking all those pamphlets from the truck, and Bodie looks at them and they're for things like quitting smoking. He says something like, "Thank goodness. My reputation remains untarnished." But he says it very sarcastically.

Date: 2007-02-03 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
You could say that episode is one long gay reference! I think quotes like this one, which seem to be about them saying something to affirm their heterosexuality, except there's an undercurrent somehow, are tricky. Here's the full quote:

Office on Canal Street. Bodie and Doyle are unloading cardboard boxes from the car and carrying them inside. Doyle notices a police car pulling up to an intersection and pausing to watch them.
DOYLE: Think we've got a nibble.
He and Bodie go inside and stack the boxes. Bodie looks at brochures piled around.
BODIE: Cooking on a budget. Post-natal depression.
DOYLE: [chuckles] That's right. Not a word, not a poster, nothing about gay youth.
BODIE: Oh, that's a relief, my image remains untarnished.
He hands Doyle a brochure.
BODIE: Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
DOYLE: Oh, yeh.
He does a double take and looks at Bodie, then back at the brochure.

Hmmmm... actually I like the way they move around each other when they're unloading the trunk of their car at the beginning of this one... and the mouth-to-mouth comment could qualify as a 'something'...

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Date: 2007-02-03 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimson-37.livejournal.com
For the camping it up section? Maybe?

In the public interest

Doyle takes the whip from around Reed's neck.
DOYLE: You'll be hearing from us.
Bodie taps Reed on the shoulder with his gun.
BODIE: Darling.

There is of course the reference at the beginning and end of this ep.

DOYLE: Just around the back, see down there past--there, down the back--there used to be this old dance hall. And there was this fantastic blonde, Ann--no, Annette, her name was--she was the first. Ann--

......

BODIE: You know, they should put up a plaque.
DOYLE: Huh?
BODIE: Where you and that blonde girl got together down the end there.
DOYLE: Oh, yeah. [laughs]
BODIE: Here, for the first time, Raymond Doyle--
DOYLE: Uh-uh. [whistles] What do you, what do you, what do you mean, first time? I was nearly fifteen.
BODIE: Ah--
DOYLE: Yeah.
BODIE: --sorry, yes. Uh-huh. [laughs]

To me it sounds like it was his first girl. Not his first time. ;)

If I am annoying you with these do say, won't you. :)

Date: 2007-02-03 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Oh, no - you're not annoying me (and I'm so glad you found the transcript error).

"Darling"
Mmmm... Bodie says this to Reed, leader of the group that burst into the office. Reed said "Hello Darling" to Bodie at the start of that scene. I think it's just an "up yours" dig.

I did enjoy your hypothesis about Ray's "first time", but again, I'm not quite convinced. It's fan fiction worthy, though *g*

Date: 2007-02-03 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calla-s.livejournal.com
Good list. (I don't even remember half of these!) I've got no particular suggestions.

It is interesting about "In the Public Interest" - I'd noticed that, with the gay-youth-group co-ordinator specifially saying he's not homosexual himself, there are no people that are identified as gay in the episode. I wonder if the lack of gay-specific pamphlets is for the same reason?

I think that Bodie's line about how the ballet dancer is "very nice" is another that loses something when it's quoted, cause the way Bodie says it is *very* camp.

I know some people are disappointed in the episode, but I really like that "In the Public Interest" has Bodie and Doyle going undercover as gay (arguably), and acting exactly the same as normal. Also, during "Everest...", when they're talking about how difficult it would have been for the policewoman to be gay in the Force, I tend to shout at the screen that Doyle knows *all* about that.

Date: 2007-02-03 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
I think that Bodie's line about how the ballet dancer is "very nice" is another that loses something when it's quoted, cause the way Bodie says it is *very* camp.

True - I shall move it to that section.

I wonder if the lack of gay-specific pamphlets is for the same reason?
I'm not sure - worry that too much overt gayness might offend Mary Whitehouse etc?

I like the "acting as normal" idea too (apart from the camping it up at the hotel, which could be excused, given their previous stay). Re. Everest, I guess there are different ways of thinking about The Lads sexuality - one way (not the only way) I frequently look at it is: - Doyle's 'flexible' (these days, with Torchwood & such, one might say 'omnisexual' *g*), and Bodie's on the gay side of bi (trying to think of the relevant Kinsey scale rating & failing).

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Date: 2007-02-03 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
Oh, this is so enjoyable - thank you for putting this together. I have a thing for quotes, from fics and episodes, and this is just lovely.

Date: 2007-02-03 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Thanks *g*

In the Public Interest

Date: 2007-02-03 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inamac.livejournal.com
There is a good reason, within the plot, for the 'sting' office not to include any references to 'gay rights' literature. This whole episode is based on a real life situation (in Manchester) where the Chief Constable sent officers (in his case, in uniform) to 'clean up' areas which he considered to be undesirable - regardless of whether the activities being practiced were within the law.
'Promoting a gay lifestyle' would, at the time, have been borderline legal - this was the era of Mary Whitehouse and the Oz and Gay News trials. If Cowley wanted to ensure that the thugs were brought to justice they had to be sure that there was absolutely nothing in that office which might be seen in a court of law as 'entrapment'.

Not, as one sees in 'The Rack' that Cowley was that keen on keeping within the law..

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Date: 2007-02-03 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Thank you very much for the background - I had thought that there would be legal issues about promoting a gay lifestyle, especially to the underaged. It's great to have that confirmed. And the Manchester situation -I'll have to look that one up. The Oz trial (UK 1971) I'm familiar with, but not the Gay News one.

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Date: 2007-02-03 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ereini0n.livejournal.com
This is such a cool project! :)
How about in Blind Run, when Ray was on his own with the Arabs and he was talking to Bodie in the RT:

DOYLE: They're here. [into R/T] Layton calling Bentley, Layton calling Bentley. Tinkerbell, Peter Pan--and Wendy--having a great time. Wish you were here.

That was such a sweet moment...

Date: 2007-02-03 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com
Well, and earlier, when they get assigned the code names -- I wish I knew where to find a transcript site. But one of them, let's say Doyle, introduces their code names to the third guy - "He's Bentley, I'm Layton." Bodie smirks and the other guy looks offended - "Do we really have to use these names?" Doyle: [drawls] "Only if we're tortured." I really think Bentley and Layton are supposed to sound like "bent" and "latent", because otherwise the vibes in the scene come out of nowhere (Doyle's amused/this-is-childish/belligerence, Bodie's glee, the other guy's shock and disgust.)

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Date: 2007-02-03 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diegina.livejournal.com
I would add this one on the list. I absolutely love this scene.

Wild Justice
ROSS: Has it never occurred to you that the only questions you deliberately answer wrongly are the ones to which you easily know the right answers? And has it further never penetrated your pretty curls that the computer is fully aware of your areas of competence and consequently takes special register of extreme deviations from normal and expected competence?
DOYLE: What are you doing tonight?
ROSS: As for taking refuge in sexual chauvinism, you've already branded yourself loud and clear.
DOYLE: Wha--how?
Bodie joins them.
ROSS: By attributing masculinity to the computer.
DOYLE: Herbie?
ROSS: Uhm. And interestingly enough, although you make it male, presumably because you feel somewhat in awe of its undoubted power, you also feel impelled to denigrate it with a, with a childish, patronising diminutive. Which suggests on the face of it a profound insecurity in sexual demarcations. Wouldn't you agree, Bodie?
BODIE: Hmm? Oh, yes. Miles out of his depth. Still, watching his struggles gives one a certain masochistic pleasure.

Date: 2007-02-04 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Oooh, never thought of this one. What is she saying? That Doyle is insecure because he's not sure where his preferences lie? Or that she knows that he knows he's attracted both/all ways, but can't quite reconcile this with his self-image? And she refers to Bodie because she's seen something between them? Strange (but interesting) dialogue.

There's nothing in the viewing to give any clues.

*wanders off to ponder*

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Date: 2007-02-03 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com
It's been too long and I can't remember the episode names now, sorry! But in the one where the spy's daughter is a pianist or something, and she's got a guy hanging around her who may be a criminal or an American agent or whatnot. They're in Cowley's office, Cowley lays out the plan, Bodie says, "And what about the boyfriend?" Doyle gives him a wicked look and says "Why, you busy?" Bodie does a total double-take that goes from shock ['did he just say that on camera in front of Cowley?'] to smiling back at him.

In the one that ends with them giving Bodie a watch, someone (possibly Bodie, but I think it was Doyle) says he's ambidextrous, and Bodie makes his camp face & voice and says, "It doesn't mean what you think it means."

There's another of his camp bits outside the hair salon - doesn't he ask Doyle if he fancies a blow-dry, or something? but it feels more like a joke than something significant.

The one that always makes me go O.o is at the end of... er. Blind Run, maybe? *finds transcript site, aha* The one where Bodie meets Philippa. Doyle says he's going to interrogate a woman over dinner and starts to walk off, Bodie grabs his arm and smirks at him and says,

BODIE: Hey, now, wait a minute. I saved her life--and yours.

DOYLE: Well, then, you can't interrogate. You're emotionally involved.

Doyle with a very incredibly sultry voice there. Then he walks off slowly and smugly, with Bodie watching, poleaxed and amused, for quite a long time, before he starts trying to remember Philippa's number instead. Anyway, it's just subtext, but it feels like they're talking about each other rather than the woman - Bodie starting it as a joke and stunned when Doyle flirts back.

Date: 2007-02-03 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com
(Just as a general thing, I'd noticed that in the first two seasons, Bodie is prone to doing this super-deep butch voice quite a lot of the time - including during that shy discussion of the gay policewomen - but he lays off it in seasons three and four - at the same time the camping starts, and the overt teasing from Doyle. Like, secret's out, no further need to overcompensate.

That's not something for the list, I just wanted to say it to somebody.)

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Date: 2007-02-03 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
I haven't got any new examples (yet) but I just wanted to say well done, Sue - it must have taken ages to compile all this and it's just the kind of thing I love looking through. Thanks for doing it.

Date: 2007-02-03 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Just thought of a possibility......I always thought there were strong undertones of something 'gay' going on in this scene in Hunter-Hunted - but I'm not sure who it's actually between.....anyway......

MARTY: Beautiful, isn't it? Amazing to think the Vikings used to sail up here a few hundred years ago. Raid our cities--
DOYLE: Rob all the women; rape all the men.
MARTY: If you like that sort of thing.
BODIE: Martell's one of the world's leading experts, Ray.
DOYLE: On what?
MARTY: I specialise in handguns and rifles.
DOYLE: What, sporting?
MARTY: Depends on what you mean by "sport".

Fugitive

Date: 2007-02-03 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Apologies if this has already been covered but I think there's a couple of gay references in the scenes just before and with Slater, the dodgy arms dealer in The Fugitive:

Bodie drives along the road and parks in front of a hairdressing salon. They go to the door.
BODIE: Fancy a quick blow dry, do you?
DOYLE: Oh, very droll.
They go in.
RECEPTIONIST: Good afternoon.
BODIE: Afternoon.
RECEPTIONIST: Bobby's free.
She indicates Bobby, who smiles at Bodie.
DOYLE: Hell, I'm sure he is.
....................

DOYLE: How do you feel about terrorists?
SLATER: Shoot the bloody lot of them.
BODIE: Queers?
SLATER: Shoot the--ha ha.


And in this scene there's also a reference to 'pink gin' when Doyle raises an eyebrow at Bodie - isn't there some sort of gay innuendo about this drink, in Navy parlance?>

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Date: 2007-02-04 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
I'd forgotten that you'd mentioned this to me previously, so thanks so much - the Bobby bit needs to be added, doesn't it!

And 'pink gin'? Makes me think of Singapore and Somerset Maugham, to be honest, although I'm not sure why. I get the gay reference, though - thank you!

Date: 2007-02-03 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metabolick.livejournal.com
I think a case could be made for sexual innuendo in this exchange during the fencing scene in Not A Very Civil Servant if one tried to force it. But then again it's probably just my dirty mind. I mean, would Doyle be so obvious? ;-)

COWLEY: Like dancing the tango with my granny.
BODIE: I'm a disco man meself, sir.
DOYLE: It's his army training. He's quite good with a bayonet.

Date: 2007-02-04 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Oh, you are awful... but I like it!
I think this might fit in the miscellaneous not-quite-sure but fun grouping :-)

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Date: 2007-02-04 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] probodie.livejournal.com
Dunno whether this qualifies, but how about the scene in Involvement. Doyle's cooking at his flat and the door buzzer goes. He presses it, and then when he hears the footsteps shouts "Come in darling, the door's open".

From whence, Bodie steps in saying "Anything you say, sweetheart!" and they both crack up.

Fantastic job, BTW.

Date: 2007-02-04 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Hahaha!

I love that - goes in "camp" I think...

Thanks!

Date: 2007-02-04 12:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alicambs.livejournal.com
Thanks, this is a lot of fun. *g*

Date: 2007-02-04 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
It is, isn't it? *wg*

Date: 2007-02-05 01:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phantomas.livejournal.com
Oh, this is brilliant :D
I've used a few of those quotes in my Pros chapter (yet unfinished, argh!), and look at how many there are there: no one should have been surprised that fans jumped on the subtext/slash, LOL (not to mention the Bullshitters *G*)

thank you for collecting all of this together :D

Date: 2007-02-05 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Thank you for commenting *g* I just thought that there was so much (as you commented) and not all in one place.

no one should have been surprised that fans jumped on the subtext/slash

I've used a few of those quotes in my Pros chapter (yet unfinished, argh!)
Ohhhhh......????? *she says, enquiringly*

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Date: 2007-02-05 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hagsrus.livejournal.com
Just a note: Pen at Hatstand is always happy to receive corrections to the transcripts.

I passed the Hunter/Hunted bit on to her.

Date: 2007-02-05 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Thanks. We've been in contact.

Date: 2007-02-21 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimson-37.livejournal.com
OK, last night after reading [livejournal.com profile] msmoat's lovely post, I went off and watched Servant of Two Masters. I picked up on something that I had never heard before. On top of the wall just before they swing through the window.

Mum's the word and they have a giggle and there is a definite gleam in Bodie's eye. Well, most of that I noticed before. But this is the first time I heard Bodie say
"No, please, after you, saucy." to Ray.

[I've checked this with a few others and they all heard it too and were surprised they hadn't heard it before either]

I'm not sure if this qualifies for your list, but, I thought it best to bring it to your attention just in case. ;)

Date: 2007-02-26 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Oh, Lord, I do get behind in my commenting, sorry!

I heard it too - this seems to me to be "camping with intent", given the looks between them. Very flirty.

Thanks!

Date: 2007-02-26 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
I thought I'd got them all, with everyone's help, and then I found this:
Need to Know"

The shared headstone!

Thanks, Sunshine:-)

Date: 2007-02-26 11:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No problem! Thanks so much for collecting these all together - it really is fantastic to see them all in the one place. It's my mission now to find more!

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Untouchables

Date: 2007-02-26 11:39 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What a great collection! Just thought of another one - not sure which section though, I'd class it as 'true love', but it might just be camping it up.

In Untouchables, after Bodie gets hit by the car, and Doyle leans down to put his head on Bodie's chest (er, that's not a standard way of checking a pulse, methinks!), and Bodie says 'Never knew you cared'. Aaah!

Re: Untouchables

Date: 2007-02-26 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
*g* a lovely moment. My opinion (fwiw) is it's not really camping, but it does display the feelings between them. Although it's open to lots of interpretations - there's at least one slash story where ructions ensue because Bodie was playing a joke and, in the context of their relationship at that time, Doyle took it badly.

But yeah, a lovely moment.. ahhh!
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